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Date: 06 Jun 1997 10:13:16 EDT
From: RMille2282

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DSWLF is a special situation, as you may know. I believe Nam Tai is still selling the remaining shares of the 10% of DSWLF it bought last year on a low-risk gamble, never meaning to hold it long term, but to make some fast $. So, we've just come through the earnings play and now volume is drying up as we re-approach the 50-day MA. I'm sure Nam Tai's sales have something to do with DSWLF's action recently.

The market makers know they have the power to jerk this thinly-traded issue around, and we may see them lower the bid real fast to chase out weak hands before bringing it back up. This could happen in the next couple of days.

As long as fundamentals don't change, and they're not ( except for the better, with the expansion of production ), I'm still looking for $30 by the end of the year. I'm not even concerned.

By the way, when China takes control of Hong Kong soon, all of these HK companies ( like DSWLF ) will be nationalized by China, and investors will lose all their money. Do you think this has something to do with DSWLF's weak knees, also?! China's not going to do a thing, you'll see.

Bob Miller
Date: 06 Jun 1997 10:39:54 EDT
From: GMalloy

Groups or markets CAN stay above 70% for a long time. Bullish percent speaks of DIRECTION-NOT AMPLITUDE. It may even play to look for new breakouts in these areas, especially of the CANSLIM variety, as they may still work out very well.

If you then get a reversal back BELOW 70%, it is then time to be very careful. Experience has taught me that you will want to sell any issue that gives a P&F sell. You may want to sell 1/2 of any position inthat group EVEN WITHOUT A SELL SIGNAL BEING GIVEN. This is because that reversal is an tremendous leading indicator.

So remember, it is the reversal, not the level itself that is important. Also, I would be more interested in trying to stay with stocks in groups that are closer to the 50% level than the 70% level. Yet so long as the group is in a column of X's, it is the stock itself that is paramount.

Hope thsi helps. It is a critically important subject and I have been meaning to discuss it.

As always...One man's opinion

GMalloy

Date: 07 Jun 1997 14:55:00 EDT
From: GMalloy

My sell rules are pretty simple. I sell 1/3 if the stock advances 50%. That takes 1/2 my original $ off the table. If it moves up 100% from initila purchase price, I sell 1/3 of what is still left. I now have almost all my own money off the table. At that point I simply use P&F stops to get out of the rest.

Note, I typically get out of some of any stock that hits the first trading stop, usually 1/2. In a BULL CONFIRMED market I may give it a little more leeway. If a stock violates the bullish support line, I'll be long gone.

Also note that if a stock reconsolidates and gives a new buy signal, I may buy more again, even if I may have sold some cheaper on the way up. It's a hard pill to swallow on occassion. Yet as O'Neil says-"Opinions are often wrong, markets never are."

As always...One man's opinion

GMalloy

Date: 09 Jun 1997 11:39:31 EDT
From: Coolcat895

>>In IBD they run a small box that denotes stocks falling in relative strength. Why not a box showing 'rising' relative strength?<<

Why not? Quite simple...WON makes big money on the institutional information services his company provides. If rising RS was shown in the IBD, the small investor would have the opportunity to buy rising RS stocks at the same time as the institutions, limiting them in their ability to accumulate stocks before the attract the public eye and the price starts rising, e.g., when the RS rank hits 80. Everyone would just start looking for rising RS stocks reported in the paper rather than saving back issues of the IBD or DG and manually compiling the RS rank on all the stocks, which is too much work for most investors.<<

Actually there is a source of rising RS information in IBD. It's the percentage gain or loss vs the 10 week moving average which is reported in the far right column in Wednesday's issue.

Generally speaking, in an upwards biased market like today's, a rating here of +20 will indicate stocks whose RS is rising. In a bear market or correction, any stock with a positive rating at all will be increasing in RS.

Date: 11 Jun 1997 14:15:22 EDT
From: Fairbank J

<<question....how do you let your WINNERS run and still adhere to WON's early advice to take your 25% profit off the table? It confuses me that one time he says to take your 25% and look for new winners, and another time he says let them run. >>

This is a very common question and while I can't speak for O'Neil I can offer you my thoughts: Your question is comparing apples and oranges because there are two different classes of stocks.

The first class are the average CS stocks bought in a typical market. These are the stocks you take your profits on, whatever your profit-taking strategy is... 20%, 50/50, or Captain Moonbeams astral projections. This is your bread and butter. String together a couple of 20+% profits while limiting your losses and you will do very nicely.

In a higher class are the New Leaders. These are the stocks you try to buy at the beginning of a new leg up in the market. With these stocks you are going for larger profits so you can accept larger losses; you don't have to limit your losses to 7% because you aren't limiting your profits to 20%. These are stocks with enormous long term potential that you buy, give them some room, and watch them run hoping to hold for at least a year. Of course you still need to have stops but you can put them further out. These are the stocks you are swinging for the fences with, this is where the real money is made, this is how you can string together a few triple-digit years. Note that New Leaders come along less frequently.

<<I'd be curious whether to get back into "sitting on cash" you pulled the plug sooner rather than later on a few that hadn't moved as quickly as you liked.>>

My new leaders were stopped out even with the generous stops I gave them. They put the spank on me. But that's the way the game goes. Even though they rudely handed me some heinous losses I still feel these are the names and I will establish positions in them again when the opportunity returns whether it be in 5 days or 5 months.

The combination of my new leaders collapsing and the markets new highs on low volume (can you say distribution) induced me to take profits on my regular stocks that were near or at the 25% level and nearing their target prices. However rather than a top down approach were I felt strongly about the direction of the market, most of my individual stocks either hit their stops or their targets and I haven't found any compelling replacements... leaving me with a lot of cash. I'm still holding a few regular stocks that haven't moved and I see no reason to sell them until they hit their targets or their stops.

The only positions that are looking interesting to me here are on the short side.

Fairbank

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